Hopbot log for 2007-08-24 - Helma IRC channel: #helma on irc.freenode.net

2007-08-24:

[11:09] <zumbrunn> Debasish Ghosh's pitch for "Javascript as a language"
[11:09] <zumbrunn> http://debasishg.blogspot.com/2007/08/why-do-they-call-it-javascript-its-not.html
[11:51] <rjb> http://ejohn.org/blog/javascript-as-a-language/
[14:19] <mho_> kennt sich jemand aus mit dem jala.listRenderer?
[18:04] <midnightmonster> ok... so in my previous web life I got kinda used to being able to use utf-8 for everything and just put my extended characters, like copyright, trademark, and pretty quote marks, right into my documents and have them Just Work.
[18:05] <midnightmonster> but JavaScript in Helma does not seem to love UTF-8.
[18:05] <midnightmonster> (maybe JavaScript everywhere, but it's never come up before)
[18:06] <zumbrunn> is the problem really in the js environement
[18:06] <zumbrunn> (as opposed to the http requests or the file input/output)
[18:07] <midnightmonster> my editor is set to utf-8. helma (afaict) is set to utf-8. apache is set to utf-8. the browser correctly sees and uses utf-8. the characters in question are defined by me in a .js file in a javascript string
[18:07] <midnightmonster> so, yeah, I'm pretty sure it's the javascript
[18:11] <zumbrunn> most the trouble I remember being discussed was related to the URLs, not the page content
[18:12] <midnightmonster> e.g., copyright symbol in E4X (which gets rendered to a string) or a string results in output of A with circonflexe accent followed by copyright symbol
[18:12] <midnightmonster> I am doing this in JS strings, not skins
[18:13] <zumbrunn> generally, you should be able to get pretty detailed feedback on a problem like this from the Helma community since many of the Helma veterans are building German language sites with umlauts
[18:14] <zumbrunn> so, if you don't get more help here on the channel, I'd definitely bring this up on the mailing list
[18:22] <zumbrunn> maybe this helps, if you haven't seen it:
[18:22] <zumbrunn> http://helma.org/pipermail/helma-user/2006-September/006685.html
[18:56] <midnightmonster> thanks. I set a bunch of properties, and I'm not sure which did it, but my guess is sourceCharset
[18:56] <midnightmonster> that got me looking in the right direction
[19:05] <midnightmonster> you know what would be super handy? if timezone was setable per-app

 

 

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