Hopbot log for 2007-10-22 - Helma IRC channel: #helma on irc.freenode.net

2007-10-22:

[10:55] <baggles> where have you been all my life?
[10:55] <baggles> this is helma.org helma, right?
[14:53] <earl> baggles: yes it is
[14:56] <baggles> how old is helma? i've been periodically looking for something like this for the last 6-9 months
[14:56] <baggles> and keep considering starting it.
[14:58] <baggles> how is its support for reflecting foreign key relationships in the framework itself?
[14:59] <baggles> i would be connecting to a legacy postgresql database.
[21:17] <earl> baggles: hm, helma started somewhen back in 1998/1999. so it's rather old, i'd say :)
[21:17] <baggles> geez.
[21:17] <baggles> i was going to ask if it was influenced by rails
[21:17] <baggles> but it probably pre-dates ruby then :P
[21:18] <earl> almost ;)
[21:20] <earl> and sorry, i've no experience connecting helma to postgres, but i guess it should do fine
[21:38] <baggles> hum
[21:38] <baggles> yeah, well, it's just the mysql camp don't care so much about foreign references.
[21:39] <baggles> i was just wondering if helma has any nice automatic resolution code?
[23:28] <BSlivka> I don't know about automatic resolution code- that term would need to be defined more before I could understand it- But in my dabblings in helma I've gotten foreign keys to work.
[23:29] <BSlivka> in that, the records in the foreign table become child objects of the records in the parent table
[23:30] <BSlivka> The challenge is basically just finding some way to get the relational model to fit into a directed graph model
[23:30] <BSlivka> which is easy for some schemas but may be more difficult for others- in which case it would require more expertise with helma than I have.
[23:32] <baggles> hum
[23:33] <BSlivka> the other option is to just make all tables "root" objects, and do the joining in javascript, but I haven't learned enough about helma to know whether that's actually necessary or not
[23:33] <BSlivka> and of course if your schema fits a directed graph it isn't
[23:34] <BSlivka> that's all I know.
[23:34] <baggles> ok, well it's 00.30 here now. i'm going to sleep. i'll read this tomorrow.
[23:35] <BSlivka> No worries. It's actually 9:37am here!
[23:37] <baggles> oh australia. geez. you're on tomorrow already
[23:37] * baggles goes to bed and puts Flight of the Concordes on
[23:38] <baggles> g'night

 

 

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