Hopbot log for 2008-09-06 - Helma IRC channel: #helma on irc.freenode.net

2008-09-06:

[13:40] <GitHub177> helma-ng: Chris Zumbrunn master SHA1-65ec0c8
[13:40] <GitHub177> modified makeStorable and store.registerType to accept an optional type argument for use with constructors that are anonymous functions
[13:40] <GitHub177> http://is.gd/2hNi
[13:40] <GitHub177> helma-ng: Andreas Bolka master SHA1-7320bc6
[19:54] <Helma9> Hello all, just found Helma...
[19:54] <Helma9> just wondering what kind of development enviroments do you guys use
[20:33] <zumbrunn> hi Helma9
[20:33] <zumbrunn> nothing spectacular
[20:34] <zumbrunn> I just found myself going back to using BBEdit pretty much exclusively
[20:34] <zumbrunn> ever since I started to use mainly git for version control
[20:34] <zumbrunn> I used to use eclipse with the jseclipse plugin before
[20:40] <Helma9> ok.. I'm looking for something that'd have a bit more code assists / documentation integration than a plain text editor :-)
[20:41] <zumbrunn> of course, the one full blown IDE that doesn't seem to suffer from over-bloat performance problems would be IntelliJ IDEA
[20:41] <Helma9> and runs on linux
[20:41] <zumbrunn> http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/javascript_editor.html
[20:41] <zumbrunn> but that's not free
[20:41] <zumbrunn> (unless you go begging)
[20:41] <Helma9> heh
[20:41] <zumbrunn> (then again, neither is BBEdit)
[20:42] <Helma9> I'm not yet ready to pay for anything I don't know if I'll use seriously ..
[20:42] <Helma9> I just wanted to know if I should just fire up Emacs and start hacking.. or if there's something better for helma out there =)
[20:44] <zumbrunn> certainly, nobody ever yet got around to develop an IDE or an add-on for helma that would make for a clear "favorite" ide in the helma community
[20:44] <Helma9> Okay.. thanks
[20:45] <zumbrunn> just your favorite javascript editor :-)
[20:45] <Helma9> I'll start fooling around with Helma.. I'm a web programmer and we're evaluating possible future frameworks..
[21:37] <decke> on saturdays?
[21:46] <Helma9> yeah? :P
[21:47] <decke> you have to be very busy then *g*
[21:47] <Helma9> Well.. I'm just a technology freak..
[21:47] <decke> or helma is so much fun that you spend your weekends with...
[21:47] <decke> you're right here then.
[21:47] <Helma9> and I guess that's also the reason I was given the task to the evaluation
[21:48] <Helma9> to do
[21:48] <decke> i'm just curious how have you found helma?
[21:48] <Helma9> I wouldn't do it on saturdays if I didn't love it =)
[21:49] <Helma9> Well.. we've been doing stuff on rails and with perl..
[21:49] <Helma9> I have done a few internal web tools in lisp as well
[21:50] <Helma9> and well.. one of the obvious questions we're going to face when choosing a technology is.. why not java? =)
[21:50] <decke> depends on de knowledge that you have in the company
[21:51] <decke> but seems to be a interesting mixture of languages
[21:51] <Helma9> yeah.. well we have java-knowledgeable people in the company as well
[21:51] <Helma9> so I wanted to see if I could find something more interesting stuff on the jvm
[21:51] <Helma9> so I found scala + lift
[21:52] <Helma9> but then I found Helma as well..
[21:52] <Helma9> and it seems to have a lot more street credibility than most of the more interesting/obscure stuff ;)
[21:53] <Helma9> and that counts because we have some pretty critical web apps
[21:54] <Helma9> so while I like to dabble in lot of weird stuff I don't even imagine to do stuff for clients in languages / environments that haven't been used in production environments
[21:54] <Helma9> and of course I can't recommend stuff just because it's "cool"
[21:54] <decke> yeah most helma stuff i know is production code ...
[21:54] <Helma9> there has to be merits.. fast development, testability, library support, etc. etc.
[21:55] <decke> and it definitely works not just on good days but also on highly loaded and very busy sites
[21:55] <Helma9> I saw that Helma has been used in production .. and people commenting that they like it better than rails..
[21:55] <Helma9> so of course I had to find out what I have been missing =)
[21:56] <decke> you're always welcome
[21:57] <Helma9> thanks

 

 

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