[1:53]<maks> hi zumbrunn, are you there at the moment? [4:14]<maks> quit [9:29]<emilis_info> how do I profile Helma NG app? is there any way to study what's using memory from a server shell? [9:50]<hannesw_> emilis_info: profiling just gives you method invocation timing/count [9:50]<hannesw_> memory profiling is a bit harder [9:50]<hannesw_> i guess you could use any java profiler [9:51]<hannesw_> VisualVM is a decent free profiling tool that does memory profiling: [9:51]<hannesw_> https://visualvm.dev.java.net/ [9:51]<emilis_info> thank you! [9:51]<hannesw_> and there are others [9:52]<hannesw_> but: it may be hard to track memory profiling data back to your (js) app code [9:52]<emilis_info> hmm [9:52]<emilis_info> I think some of the java libraries I use leak memory [9:53]<emilis_info> so at least memory usage by java objects would be helpful [9:53]<emilis_info> anyway, I'm gonna try VisualVM [9:53]<emilis_info> :) [9:54]<hannesw_> there's also yourkit and jprofiler, i think they have evaluation license programs [9:54]<emilis_info> yuck [9:54]<emilis_info> :) [9:55]<emilis_info> I have to get used to using something not OS-licensed [9:55]<emilis_info> :) [13:45]<oberhamsi> does anyone have a recent rhino.jar from csv? [13:54]<oberhamsi> k, got it...